I don’t have much of an actual idea of what the health care bill really means. Below I simply record some notes and sources I’ve looked at. After my preliminary research it looks like this bill is good:
- Insurance companies get a bunch of new customers, and thus are ok-er with being forced to lower costs.
- Individuals who make $200k and married couples who make $250k and up will have a new 3.8% tax.
- Companies with 50 or more employees have some more regulations (if they aren’t already offering health care).
- Insurance exchanges will make bring competition into the health care market, where currently individuals are gang-raped for sport. (i mean, have you ever felt as powerless as being an individual trying to negotiate with a health care provider for a better rate?)
- Drug co’s, and medical industry co’s pay for much of their new clients
- Old people get cheaper drugs. A total plus if your grandparents and parents like to spoil your children.
- and finally: ”Because somewhere deep in your heart you said to yourself, ‘I believe in an America in which we don’t just look out for ourselves, that we don’t just tell people you’re on your own.’ “
But this is just preliminary research….
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“I think Newt Gingrich summed up the Republican point of view and their hopes perfectly. He said that if Democrats pass health reform, “They will have destroyed their party much as Lyndon Johnson shattered the Democratic Party for 40 years” by passing civil rights legislation.
If we have destroyed the party by doing something one-tenth as necessary and morally right as the civil rights legislation it is worth the sacrifice.”
- comment on: http://www.slate.com/id/2246912/pagenum/2
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“Can anyone who seems so pissed to see this historic bill pass honestly tell me that they do NOT currently have insurance? ANYONE?” – another comment, same article.
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CNN Has a good write up. Here is the gist:
Things that will happen immediately:
- No cap: if you buy a policy, no healthcare provider will be able to cap the amount of care they will cover.
- $5 bil will be set aside to aide those who are uninsured with pre-existing conditions. This money will be available until 2014, when some more shit goes into effect.
- Children are insured until $26: parents/guardians will need to be sure to have these “not so young-uns” inside the family policy until 26 or inside their own policy. Meant to help the college and post-college folks who, let’s be honest, aren’t about to pay for health care when Hamm’s, Jack Daniels, and drive in movie tickets are so readily available.
- Old people in a specific medicare group D get $250 to pay for prescriptions. That group narrowing by 2011 and further more in 2020 as drug companies are required to discount common drugs by 50% in 2011 and 75% later on.
- so, I feel like this is a good thing, Right? Drug companies being forced to lower the price of needed medication?
What will happen in 2014:
- Health insurance exchanges will be created: these make it easier for individuals, small businesses and self employed to get more quality health care for less price.
- I was interested in what these insurance exchanges are and found this article: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ezra-klein/2009/06/health_insurance_exchanges_the.html
- As an individual talking to insurance companies you have basically no leverage (because you’re only one account to them, not several), so you get high prices, or insufficient coverage, or total un-coverage of anything you’ve had before (so if you mentioned back pain to your doctor last time, you’re screwed next time). “The Health Insurance Exchange, combines the benefits of choice that are theoretically available on the individual market with the bargaining power and scale that’s generally accessible only in large employers”
- the “hardship exception” allows for people too poor to pay, giving a family of 4 up to $88,000 a year
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Christian Science Monitor: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0322/Health-care-reform-bill-101-what-the-bill-means-to-you
- “Democratic healthcare reform would expand insurance coverage in America by requiring people to obtain it.”
- There are exceptions. Certain people with religious objections would not have to get health insurance. Nor would American Indians, illegal immigrants, or people in prison.
- Why are they doing this? Bringing in LOTS of people means Insurance companies are more likely to be OK with being forced to charge LESS for their plans.
- “Basically, people who make three or four times the poverty level would get enough federal money so that they would not have to pay more than about 10 percent of their income for a decent health insurance package.”
- Insurance companies will be prohibited from placing lifetime caps – limits on the amount of money that can eventually be paid out – on their policies. They’ll face new restrictions on setting annual caps, as well.
- Insurance companies also will be prohibited from pulling your coverage, except in case of fraud or intentional misrepresentation.
- Children won’t be excluded from coverage due to pre-existing health conditions. Plus, children will be able to stay on their parents’ policy until age 26.
- Small businesses that offer health coverage to employees will be eligible for tax credits of up to 50 percent of premium costs.
- Seniors who fall into the coverage gap, or “doughnut hole”, in the middle of the Medicare Part D prescription drug coverage plan will get $250 to help them pay their bills.
- People with pre-existing health conditions will be able to enroll in a new, but temporary, national high-risk insurance plan.
- Higher Medicare taxes on rich people: individuals making more than $200,000 a year, or married couples making more than $250,000 a year. First, Medicare Part A (that’s hospital insurance) tax rate would be increased by 0.9, Then, an entirely new tax of 3.8 percent on unearned income (dividends, interest, stuff like that) for people in those same income brackets. This starts Jan 1 2013.
- New tax on expensive health insurance: A tax on the insurance companies providing expensive health care plans…. starts 2018
- Fees on health care industries: since they’re getting a BUNCH of new customers, it’s only fair. Drug manufacturers, health insurers, medical device manufacturers…
- 10% increase in indoor tanning services… WTF?
- Medicare cuts…
- “If you are a fir m with more than 50 employees, and do not offer health insurance as a benefit, and at least one of your full-time employees gets a subsidy from the federal government to purchase health insurance on his or her own, you would have to pay Washington a fee of $2,000 for every one of your full-time workers.” What 50 employee companies don’t already offer health benefits? If they don’t, isn’t that really unfair?? i’m ignorant about this.


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I have been going back and forth on this with friends and family since yesterday. Some of my hard-core right winged friends are so pissed about this, that they are about to come unglued. What I said on facebook was: “The best and richest country in the world should help supply health care like the rest of the developed world. You will not lose your freedom, you will be helping your fellow man. Good will come from this because it is the right thing to do.” That caused a huge debate, mainly people not wanting to lose money out of their pocket. The love of money = Greed = Fear = Hate = The Dark Side…
Chase, great write up, review, recap. appreciated. @bigbiz, that’s the perfect last sentence, so true. I really can’t believe how pissed people are, when the majority of people pissed can only be affected in a positive way. the majority who will be taxed are not among our peers, and are a small minority of the population.fuck ‘em
@bigBix and @jason, indeed.My very smart canadian friend (not particularly in that order) mentioned this to me today when I asked him why he thought it was a good idea: “well, because of jesus, but also because it makes sense economically on a macro scale you know that americans suck right? as far as productivity and real non money based GDP goes? its one of the 3 great marketing tricks of the 20th century1. de beers makes engagement rings a cultural institution2. budweiser changes the taste of american beer drinkers to save money3. the republicans convince the poorest least educated people in america to vote against themselves in G-ds nameit was a fucking genius moveA country is a collective by its very nature… Maybe people who make more money, or run businesses pay more, so be it. “
Some more thoughts cuz I know nothing! I’ve heard it said that this is a question of wether or not healthcare is a right or a luxury: I think people deserve affordable healthcare like they deserve taxation. I guess. Is that right? It’s a new Idea for us yanks, but are we at a place where healthcare is something every human needs, like air and access to water? I think probably.I’ve also heard about how hard this will make it on small-med businesses… that people won’t try to make something of themselves because higher taxation is their reward. I understand that it will make it more difficult. But the difficulty isn’t stammering, not so heavy there isn’t a way through it. This question is my biggest concern… and one I’ve thought a lot about. And ultimately, the consumer protection in this bill that would be a benefit for everyone with or without healthcare insurance, outweighs the pressure my businesses would shoulder. I don’t think people will shy away from trying to achieve something better because of this bill. Healthcare insurance is something businesses are used to navigating, and now their course has to change, and any company selling or serving something truly meaningful/helpful/commercial will find it’s way through. And i don’t say that flippantly; I have many friends running businesses and I myself have run a few… And on top of that, I’m actually fiscally conservative. So i’m really going out on a limb to support this bill! But, as I mentioned above, I really like the consumer protection that will trickle down into businesses (made of individual consumers) as well. I like the idea of this industry being regulated, because it’s easy to get fucked by it (pardon my french).I need more thoughts from you people!!
This is something I saw that I thought was pretty neat because people think they are losing their freedom from this bill:”This morning I was awoken by my alarm clock powered by electricity generated by the public power monopoly regulated by the US Department of Energy. I then took a shower in the clean water provided by the municipal water utility. After that I turned on the TV to one of the FCC regulated channels to see what the National Weather Service of the National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration determined the weather was going to be like using satellites designed, built, and launched by the National Aeronautics and Space Administration. I watched this while eating my breakfast of US Department of Agriculture inspected food and taking the drugs which have been deemed safe by the Food and Drug Administration.At the appropriate time as regulated by the US Congress and kept accurate by the National Institute of Standards and Technology and the US Naval Observatory, I get into my National Highway Traffic Safety Administration approved automobile and set out to work on the roads built by the local, state, and federal Departments of Transportation, possibly stopping to purchase additional fuel of a quality level determined by the Environmental Protection Agency, using legal tender issued by the Federal Reserve Bank. On the way out the door I deposit any mail I have to be sent out via the US Postal Service and drop the kids off at public school.After work I drive my NHTSA back home on the DOT roads, to a house that has not burned down in my absence because of the state and local building codes and fire marshal’s inspection, and which has not been plundered of all it’s valuables thanks to the local police department…. Then I log onto the internet which was developed by the Defense Advanced Research Projects Administration and then post on freerepublic.com and foxnews forums about how SOCIALISM in medicine is BAD because the Government can’t do anything right.”"Author Unknown.”
so… a couple of thoughts and a couple of questions… obviously, living in the south, you can imagine how different the social/political climate is around me than it may be in the west. people are really shaken up right now about this whole thing. mostly, i feel like i’m in the dark and personally, i’m not sure what to think or believe. but there is at least one part of all this that concerns me. you mentioned “medicare cuts” briefly as a side-note in your summary. as one working in the billing office of a healthcare provider, i can tell you this is going to be a really big deal. Medicare has already cut their allowables by 20% this year (hopefully to be overtuned) and their rates are already a huge blow to our providers (not to mention their administration is horrible, they are the worst people to deal with in the world, worst, worst worst). i’m no politician/economist, and i have no expert opinion, but i have experienced dealing with the current hanus government administrated ins carrier, and i am afraid to think what the ramifications of a bill like are going to be for us.but the about the rest, i just don’t know. I still don’t understand the way we tax the rich, though. period. healthcare or no healthcare. shouldn’t everyone be taxed in the same way, by the same percentage of what we earn? it just doesn’t make any sense. why penalize the rich more making more money? who cares if the people being taxed are “not among our peers”? they are hard working people just like we are. i just don’t get the “screw the rich” mentality…also, i am curious. is it true that all government employees and politicians are exempt from the effects of the bill? i’ve heard this said, and it seems kind of shady. if that is true than i have a really hard time believing this bill is all that it seems to be. how can people vote on instituting a policy from which they are exempt? your thoughts…
p.s. for the record, i am a huge advocate of healthcare reform, and i strongly believe something needs to be done to put the commercial ins companies in check, i just am not sure i understand or totally support the current plan of action…
@bigBiz: very interesting.@Elizabeth: You make a great point. I know there’s LOTS of people that will be effected by any medicare changes. I don’t know what’s what about that, and i imagine that will have some significant consequences. The bill aint perfect, and it’s hard for me to really think that a bunch of politicians in America got together to do something just plain ol’ benevolent, but one of those guys got it right: This is a big fucking deal.lol! ^n_n^
One of the interesting things about Medicare is that when it was established there was no objective system for creating rates for medical procedures. Basically, lawmakers went to doctors (or their union reps) and asked them what they thought they should be paid for performing procedures. The MDs and unions got together and came up with a standardized set of charges that was based on little more that whatever they wanted to be paid. They also established a % rate of increase over time for inflationary purposes. Lawmakers said “okay that sounds good.” However, several years later, lawmakers started doing the math and realized that, oh no, this could get out of control really quickly. What they did was create a new law that lowered rates by 20%, but that law, while passed, was then maneuvered around for various reasons year after year until now. So the cuts that Elizabeth is talking about are actually a systematic fix because the law was poorly written from the start. Furthermore, those cuts really shouldn’t (although they probably will) affect people receiving Medicare. It should really only affect MD rates. The observation that Medicare is poorly run at the administrative level is probably accurate, but I have found that working with Medicare is actually way more convenient than trying to work with a private insurance company.Cheers!
@Seth: I agree that the cuts only directly affect the providers, but if MD’s can’t afford to contract with MC because the cuts are so costly it could have huge repercussions on the MC patients. I have heard that in the past, dealing with MC was not so horrific, that although they compensated less for services, they were somewhat more reliable payers. But currently they are worse to correspond with than even the most frustrating commercial companies, who ultimately pay more per procedure than MC and take better care of their patients AND providers. It’s all just a mess.